Wednesday, July 01, 2026

ESB, 5: A longstanding, "Unidentified" [= Unexplained], Anomalous Phenomenon (UAP) -- The Shroud of Turin and Sudarium of Oviedo

  . . . yes, the UAP concept broadens our focus and leads to questions about the factual adequacy and explanatory power of the conventional wisdom of modern, often hyperskeptical radically secularist worldview.

An AI constructed image of the man in the Shroud

The Shroud itself is apparently a burial cloth for a crucified man, with a crown of thorns and a spear thrust in the side, who had been cruelly beaten before his crucifixion; which bears the image of the victim. Up until 1898, it would have been easy to dismiss it as just one of many religious relics of dubious provenance. 

But, in that year, a photograph of the face was taken, and to the shock of the photographer, the expected "negative" image turned out to in fact be a positive, i.e. the shroud itself was a negative image. 

Where, until photography was invented in C19, that was not a recognised concept. As well, the shroud shows a proper anatomical knowledge of crucifixion, i.e. the wrist is where the nails were likely to go through, as the palms are too weak to support the victim, and this would tend to lock the thumb in, as is shown in the image of the hand, due to cutting or damaging a nerve . . . itself a further source of pain. Hence, the visible four fingers with a "missing" thumb is a subtle sign of authenticity -- no medieval forger of a "relic" would have had that sort of anatomical knowledge.

Worse, when the STURP project investigated the relic in 1978, it was recognised that three dimensional information was embedded in the image; something that simply does not happen with a conventional photograph. (Where, manifestly, linen is not a known photographic, light-sensitive, image-forming material, nor is there silver in the material, as would be required.)

And much more, e.g. dust and pollen consistent with being in the ME near Jerusalem in the Spring time, etc.

Moreover, apart from blood deposits (Type AB), the image is not formed from dyes or pigments, but instead a ~ 200 nm surface layer of linen fibres has been altered (seemingly by radiation), forming the negative by means unknown but speculated to be an immense, short pulse of radiation. Also, the blood-stained areas do not have an image, showing that the blood was deposited first

Likewise, the blood (which retains a reddish hue) shows breakdown products consistent with horrific trauma that reasonably would be associated with crucifixion. Again, beyond the credible knowledge base of a medieval forger. 

So, 

bottomline on the shroud: at minimum, we likely have here an artifact that allows us to better understand crucifixion. If credibly authentic as burial shroud of Jesus of Nazareth, we have here direct artifactual, archaeological evidence of Jesus and his crucifixion. 

Video:


More:

Where, this last video documents a more recent, C21 investigation of the shroud. In 2015, as part of a further investigation, sterile vacuums were used to collect dust and debris embedded deep in the shroud. Mitochondrial human DNA (which passes in the matrilineal line) was analysed. It gives a pattern of hits pointing to the middle east/Levant region, North East Africa (Egypt, Ethiopia), Europe, but also INDIA and CHINA. This is consistent with the traditional narrative of its journey, which of course has long been dismissed by skeptical scholarship. Namely, Jerusalem > Edessa > Constantinople > Europe. Where, Edessa is a known node on the Silk Road trade route that tied Asia to Europe. Also, it has been suggested that possibly the original cloth was woven in India and traded as a prestige cloth. However, even deeper pause was given by pollen samples: 58 species, and again following the traditional route. But also, the dominant pollen source, nearly half of the sample, was a thorny thistle known from the Jerusalem-Jericho area. Significantly, this was heavily concentrated in the head and shoulder region of the shroud image. Precisely where a "crown of thorns" would have been, and it is further suggestive of springtime, the time of Passover. A second strongly represented pollen type came from another plant native to Judaea and the Sinai. 2017 investigations of the blood stain material also came from type AB blood, not pigment, and had breakdown products associated with extreme trauma: prolonged torture, dehydration and muscle destruction. This suggests not only crucifixion but a prior brutal beating that itself was mortally wounding; consistent with the observable marks of a whip having thongs loaded with metal balls, making over 100 strokes. The red colour of the blood is said to be compatible with liver release of bilirubin, a further mark of catastrophic trauma.

Nor, can the notorious 1988 C-14 radiocarbon dating settle the matter as a medieval forgery (as I recall seeing roundly declared in a CXC Physics Textbook, as a triumph of Science).  As, it comes from a section that seems to have been repaired and rewoven, apparently including cotton fibres. (The Shroud proper, IIRC, is 3:1 Herringbone Twill, Linen. [Cf. Schwortz.])

The Pray Manuscript Shroud image, c. 1192 - 5 AD,
which gives reason to doubt the 1988 dating (Cf. here)

Relevant, too, is the 1192 - 5 Hungarian Pray Codex, which as was noted may well document the shroud well before the 1988 dating window:

the Hungarian Pray manuscript (or Codex) is dated 1192-95, or 65-68 years before 1260 the earliest possible radiocarbon date of the Shroud (and 130-133 years before the claimed middle date of 1325). Yet the Pray manuscript is obviously depicting the Shroud with its: 1. naked Jesus (otherwise unknown in the middle ages); 2. having his arms crossed in front; 3. hands with no thumbs; 4. about to be covered by a shroud with the same rare herringbone weave pattern; and 5. (the clincher) the Pray manuscript's shroud depicts the same pattern of burn holes [--> the L-pattern of "poker holes" . . . possibly, from censer coals spilling on the shroud] that are on the Shroud of Turin!

Sceptics said it was a hoax, possibly made to attract the profitable medieval pilgrimage business. If the "sceptics" were truly sceptical (and not just true believers in the Shroud's inauthenticity) they would realise that it would take far less than the Shroud to make money in the gullible middle ages . . . 

So, while those committed to dismiss the shroud may cling to the C-14 dating as between 1260 and 1390, we have independent manuscript evidence that the shroud was known to a Hungarian source by 1192-5, over half a century before the proposed C-14 date range. 

reasonable doubt issue: Taking the location problem for the dating sample, the cotton fibres confirming that this sample was likely a repaired region and the Pray manuscript together, then, we already have reason to consider that the C-14 dating fails to firmly establish the true age of the shroud. 

Where, too, a linen decay study (cf. here) led to the observation, 

"aging of linen fabrics can be estimated by means of the WAXS-dating method . . . . the WAXS-dating method [8] was applied to a sample of the Shroud, namely, a thread taken in the proximity of the 1988/radiocarbon area (the corner of the Shroud corresponding to the feet area of the frontal image, near the so-called Raes sample) . . . One-dimensional integrated WAXS data profiles were fully compatible with the analogous measurements on a linen sample whose established age, though radio-carbon method’s and historical-record’s dating, is 55–74 AD (siege of Masada, Israel), thereby also implying that the Shroud is about 2000 years old." ["Long-Term Temperature Effects on the Natural Linen Aging of the Turin Shroud," Liberato De Caro et al., Information 2022, 13(10), 458; https://doi.org/10.3390/info13100458 ]

Obviously, there will always be onward debates, but again:

remaining plausibility of ~ 2,000 year old date: the aging of linen applied to the shroud, together with the questions regarding the sample for C-14 dating, gives plausibility to preserving the option that its date is ~ 1,000+ years beyond the 1988 claim. The observed Pray manuscript from Hungary, further plausibly is a dated observation of the shroud 1192-5 AD, over half a century before the C-14 95% confidence dating window, 1260-1390; which reasonably may suffer a systematic error, due to the question of being a repair region including cotton fibres.

This Schwortz interview (shortly before his passing), is therefore also worth pondering, to see just how mysterious this object is and remains, long after the dismissive 1988 dating episode -- which he addresses i/l/o a 27 year later FOIA request. Evidently, the dating was not as well-founded as it should have been (perhaps, in part due to only one sample being taken, and that from a part that it looks was rewoven after the 1532 fire):

This, then, is already exceedingly in the UAP category. 

But, there is more, the Sudarium of Oviedo, Spain, which -- suitably folded -- matches the blood stains for the face, including, AB blood type. (Which, is relatively rare and would not have been known to a medieval forger.) 

Matching the Sudarium to the face, 1

In more detail:

More details of the match, drawn out, 2. Notice signs of bleeding and/or effusion from nose and mouth, signs of internal injury. BTW, the biochemical signatures in the blood and bodily fluid evidence show such a degree of trauma from the whipping, that the injuries at that point were already arguably mortal. 

The tickler? 

The Sudarium -- in the context of  Jn 20:7 "and the face cloth, which had been on Jesus'  head, not lying with the linen cloths but folded up in a place by itself" -- has been separately dated and is in continuous chain of custody from Spain, ~650AD, with a plausible narrative of rescue from the ME c. 614 - 657 AD. Which, of course are before the ~AD 700 C-14 date cited by Wikipedia etc. Moreover, this is far outside the suggested window of the 1988 C-14 date.

Further to this a study of the suggested face cloth, points to how:

Once the man had died, the corpse stayed in a vertical position for around one hour, and the right arm was raised with the head bent 70 degrees forwards and 20 degrees to the right . . .  If the man of the Oviedo Sudarium was hanging by the right arm only, then the rest of the body, especially the head, would be relatively far from this arm, hanging to the left. This position is incompatible with that of the head that the cloth wrapped. It is therefore easy to deduce that the body was hanging by both arms. But if the body was hanging like this, without support for the feet, the man would have died in 15 or 20 minutes, and there would not have been enough time to generate the amount of liquid necessary to form the stains visible on the cloth. If the body were hanging with both arms above the head, then the head would have been leaning forwards and not to the right. So the only position compatible with the formation of the stains on the Oviedo cloth is both arms outstretched above the head and the feet in such a position as to make breathing very difficult, i.e. a position totally compatible with crucifixion. We can say that the man was wounded first (blood on the head, shoulders and back) and then "crucified". [RECENT HISTORICAL INVESTIGATIONS ON THE SUDARIUM OF OVIEDO By Mark Guscin, 1999]

In short, a: the shroud and the sudarium plausibly belong together, b: from the body of a crucified man executed over the course of hours by that barbaric form of slow hanging, c: who had been mockingly crowned with a crown of thorns, and d: who had been first brutally whipped to the point of already being in dying condition before e: being nailed in an anatomically accurate part of the hands (the wrist), and beaten about the face, f: in the spring, near Jerusalem; and g: who had fallen while carrying the cross beam. The Shroud's image h: is a photographic negative which further records 3-D information and even some X-ray information; perhaps i:  coming from a burst of radiation after his burial. Some suggest, j: coins over the eyes consistent with small change coinage for Judaea c 30 AD, Judaea. Where, k: despite the C-14 dating from what seems to have been a repaired region, l: aging of the linen cloth points to victim was crucified at a time similar to the siege of Masada, i.e. C1 AD. These materials m: were preserved and carried on diverse paths, leading to Edessa, Constantinople, possibly Athens, Hungary and France then Italy for the one, and through Egypt and North Africa to Spain for the other. In addition, n: the traditional images and paintings of Jesus of Nazareth, are close to what could plausibly come from artists seeing the face on the shroud.

So, where does all of this sit?

- Is this "proof beyond all dispute" that this is Jesus' burial cloth, complete with markers of a radiative event connected to his resurrection? 

- Does this then "prove" the Gospel narratives to similar absolute degree? 

- (And if they fail such utter demonstration, can we then dismiss the lot as "no evidence" on whatever convenient objection or explaining away?)

No.

No, to all three, in fact.

Though, were this almost any other suggested individual, a fairly obvious conclusion would have been drawn.

But that is, in a perverse way, just the point.

For, artifacts and history, witnesses and record CANNOT prove beyond "all dispute." Instead, responsible due warrant and right reason would recognise that such evidence can only at best show to moral certainty. And the point of moral certainty would be that it would be irresponsible to act as though a claim with such a degree of evidence is false, on matters of grave weight.

In short, one of our points here, is to challenge our attitude to evidence and tendency to selective hyperskepticism.

Where, too, the real point of this post in the ESB series emerges. 

For, we have here yet more evidence, that our conventional wisdom is too narrow and needs to be reassessed. Perhaps, starting with structural reason to believe in God, a reconsideration of the worldviews issue and with reason to examine the case of Jesus of Nazareth with fresh, open minds. END


PS: For me, though obviously I do not rely on this artifact as base warrant for my "reason for the Faith I have," this case is sufficient to give pause, including not only on how credulous we can be, but also that that credulousness can all too easily extend to a commitment to dismissiveness and to "gold standard" high prestige institutions and their authoritative pronouncements -- let's say it out loud: "the settled Scientific consensus . . ." -- on all too many issues of concern. 


PPS: The above, is about how we construct or acknowledge warrant in our civilisation, making a call for reform. That is valid, but this morning I was strongly reminded that we also need to draw out the Isa 53 context and healing power of Jesus' stripes. Accordingly, let me excerpt two WA posts I have shared across a remnant-reformation circle:

<<
Let us refocus:

Is 53:4 Surely he has borne our griefs

        and carried our sorrows . . . 

       5 But he was wounded for our transgressions;

        he was crushed for our iniquities;

        upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace,

        and with his stripes we are healed. 

       6 All we like sheep have gone astray;

        we have turned-every one-to his own way;

        and the LORD has laid on him

        the iniquity of us all.

He is risen with healing in his wings, and is capable of healing our inner pain and bringing our broken inner selves back into healthy wholeness. Peace, with God, peace within, peace with others, peace with the world.>>

Then, 

<<The shroud and sudarium illustrate and just possibly may document [--> who else, historically was crucified with a mocking crown of thorns? ANS: Nil] what he went through bodily, the scriptures document his agony of soul, from which we have restoration, salvation, deliverance, healing. God be with you.>>

Saturday, June 13, 2026

The Empire Strikes Back (ESB), 4: As Disclosure Day and the third US Gov, release of UAP files come out, let us ponder evidence and our true "first contact"

 Yesterday was a remarkable day, where both a Spielberger Film and the third US Government release of UAP files occurred on the same day. Patently, not coincidentally, as a main theme of the movie (in development since 2023-4) is Government attempts to suppress evidence of first contact with extraterrestrials. (Yes, the timing is itself an implicit message, trying to help counter widespread suspicion: disclosure is happening.)

What are we to make of this, given 1, 2, 3 already and some "fresh meat"?

First, as a Daily Mail article picks up the story:

The third set of documents was quietly uploaded to the Department of War's website on the same day as the release of the Hollywood blockbuster Disclosure Day.

According to the Pentagon, there have been 'unprecedented levels of interest' in the UFO files, with the website receiving more than 1.7 billion hits worldwide since it launched in May.

The latest trove adds dozens of documents, photographs and videos to the government's rapidly expanding public archive of unexplained sightings.

No, I don't find their headlining an Apollo 16 astronaut's brief remark on a Moon gravity anomaly -- most likely from an impact -- a point to be taken seriously: "It could be an alien star base or something . . . " (Most likely, this is humorous banter, as the Astronaut immediately continues "Anyway, the next slide shows the front side of the moon" -- not a likely follow-up to a serious statement. [I suspect, DM is using British understatement to make a point, even while exploiting a click-bait like headline.])

Yes, it is interesting to notice how, in 1958, "[Dr Leon] Davidson was told by the CIA that the agency 'cannot resolve his problem concerning the space message and its transmitter because records on the matter have been destroyed by the evaluating agency.' "  (Regrettably, whatever the substance was, it was destroyed; and yes, there is plainly some reason to be concerned -- rather than panicky -- about secrecy, cover-ups, destruction of evidence etc.)

However, so far, the most significant point in this third cluster is this:


That is, as a security matter, from 1948, they were aware of clusters of sightings of disk-like flying objects by the military, and believed another one was emerging, setting up a procedure for reporting. Notice, they directed that photographs be taken. Thus, those charged with defence were taking the matter seriously nearly eighty years ago. This is not just readily dismissed "National Enquirer" sensationalism, shifting the way we should be thinking.

Speaking of photographs:


DM comments:

The 2024 FBI report documented the sighting by a US Army intelligence officer and four other members of his unit.

In February 2022, as they left their office building in Colorado Springs, they saw the strange UFO hovering over the Cheyenne Mountains [HQ for NORAD, the joint US-Canadian nuclear attack defence command].

The object was described as creamy or whitish, somewhat translucent with a slight shimmer and made of irregular, non-overlapping panels like 'articulating fish scales.'

The UFO stayed perfectly still, but the panels on its surface shifted slowly in waves. After about two minutes, the object suddenly vanished as if it cloaked itself in mid air.

This is hard to explain, certainly in terms of a vehicle, it sounds more like a hologram (raising the "Flatland" transdimensional model outlined in part 2).

As further context, I think it will be helpful to note from an early review of Spielberg's Disclosure Day:

We join “Disclosure Day” after Daniel has discovered that Fox Mulder was right: Not only are non-humanoid life forms real, but there are powerful people trying to keep that truth from the world.

 [--> feeding conspiracism, directly Gov't. but between lines the church and its message] 

Daniel has been working with a team of Wardex defectors, led by Hugo Wakefield (Colman Domingo), to release information to the world, including footage of alien encounters and brutal interrogations. [--> parallel to the files coming out] They’re just waiting for a sign to initiate the final stage of their plan: Unleashing every piece of recorded footage of alien encounters, aka Disclosure Day.

That sign [--> signs and wonders . . . ]  takes the form of Margaret Fairchild (Emily Blunt), a Kansas City meteorologist who begins to experience the world in impossible ways. It’s not just that she can speak fluent Russian to her boyfriend Jackson (Wyatt Russell), but she can also understand people’s life stories by looking in their eyes. When a cop pulls her over, she can see that he had fought with his wife that morning. When she finally makes it to the air that morning, she begins speaking in what sounds like an alien language. Only Daniel can understand her 

[--> speaking in tongues, prophetic revelations of secrets of men's hearts turned into ET phenomenon, feeding the challenge to charismatics, pentecostals & evangelicals generally] 

. . . . Blunt particularly captures a woman torn apart by being not just the mouthpiece for [--> priestess/prophetess character] the most important day in recorded history [--> so, cross and resurrection are marginalised] but an emotional conduit to the world. She doesn’t want to be a savior. [--> notice that word] Blunt’s performance can sometimes feel big, but it’s also remarkably nuanced, particularly in the amount of work she has to do without lines when she looks into the eyes of another character whose life she can “see.” It’s a true vision of active empathy, which Hugo insists is what this is all about: A sense that we have been evolutionarily derailed by lies and emotional dishonesty. [--> uh huh] It’s hard to argue he’s wrong. [--> as in meet prophet Spielberg] 

. . . . With “Disclosure Day,” he’s less interested in the impact than the ripple effect. What would happen if we knew the truth? [--> as in, we do not yet know the real truth] Would it unite us or divide us further? And what would happen to faith and religion if we discovered other “supreme beings”? [--> See the attack? See the philosophical and theological strawmen of God set up and knocked over?] This theme is evident in the discovery that Jane was once a novitiate. [--> in training to be a nun, Catholic church in focus now] While some scenes with her former Mother Superior, played by Elizabeth Marvel, can feel a bit blunt in their thematic exploration, [ --> That is, an attack too direct to put in the review] it’s just another place in which Spielberg is asking questions. [--> serious questions or attack questions?] His career has long been one of embedding filmmaking confidence with human curiosity, and both elements are on full display here.

Another early review hints at more  that we need to recognise and prepare to address effectively:

One thing that David Koepp’s screenplay excels at is the character of Jane and her fundamental questioning of her faith. [--> there we go, Christianity is dubious and to be put in the dock] I’ve always found that the questioning of a higher power in the realization of a different higher being would only help to establish one’s faith more [--> gobbledygook, but obviously trying to demote God as taught in Scripture], but I love that she’s conflicted in how to feel about it, and she reaches out to her surrogate family to help her work through it. One of my favorite pieces of dialogue goes somewhat like, “Why would he create a vast universe and save it only for us?” 

[--> the de-centering of humanity and our salvation, where we clearly need to bring out the wider Biblical order starting with angels and demons, cherubim, seraphim and more, including key visions of God, such as:

Ezek 1: 4 As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, and a great cloud, with brightness around it, and fire flashing forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were gleaming metal.2  5 And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: 

they had a human likeness, 6 but each had four faces, and each of them had four wings. 7 Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the sole of a calf's foot. And they sparkled like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. And the four had their faces and their wings thus: 9 their wings touched one another. Each one of them went straight forward, without turning as they went. 10 As for the likeness of their faces, each had a human face. The four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and the four had the face of an eagle 

[--> do you want a more alien-looking creature, here as honour guard of God?]

  . . . .  26 And above the expanse over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire;  and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance. 27 And upward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were gleaming metal, like the appearance of fire enclosed all around. And downward from what had the appearance of his waist I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness around him.  28 Like the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain [= the rainbow, a sign of mercy and of judgement], so was the appearance of the brightness all around.      

      Such was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking.] 

It’s a subtle and nuanced character arc that will get overshadowed by Disclosure Day’s more bombastic elements, but I think this is a particular high point for a supporting character that other directors would push further in the background.

Now, how will we respond, soundly and correctively?

  • Clearly, there is an underlying dechristianising, dismissively doubt [doubt is the anti-virtue here, an inferior substitute for prudent warrant], marginalise and dismiss the church, the gospel, the scriptures premise.
  • The readily accessible Ezekiel Ch 1 (among many other scriptures!) suffices to expose the strawman fallacy of a "local" god, not able to deal with other intelligent creatures . . . Here's God's throne with Cherubim honour guard, a throne of radiant mercy as well as of judgement.
  • Further, to responsibly describe God is not -- repeat, NOT -- to diminish him. Yes, he is beyond finite limit, his ways and thoughts transcend ours, but he is good, wise, true, just, redemptive, love himself, so, again, we recognise . . .

The inherently good, utterly wise Creator God, a necessary (so, eternal), maximally great being, root and sustainer of worlds; worthy of our loyalty and of our reasonable, responsible service of doing the good that accords with our evident nature.

  • This is already enough to answer many ill-informed caricatures; though that is not likely to persuade those whose minds are already set in hostility to the gospel.
  • Obviously, if God's throne room can have patently alien honour guards, the Judaeo-Christian, scriptural tradition inherently has adequate resources to deal with extraterrestrials. And, as for "first contact" God is our first contact already, our first neighbour and host, setting the context to address angels, demons, and extraterrestrial creatures alike . . . as, Jn 1: 
"Jn 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,  and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."
  • So, we can have perfect confidence and adequate resources -- light -- to address any "shocks" to our understanding of possible or actual worlds, "dimensions," technologies, messages and beings. (BTW, as we see here, cherubs are polymorphic . . . "shape shifting.")
  • As for playing games with tongues-speaking (here, of ET provenance) and eye-changes as a sign of ET-possession, that is uncomfortably close to demonic possession, something Spielberg has to know.
  • I here think he is making a subtle anticipatory move, to make those who speak to demonic phenomena as one possibility, seem to be ignoramuses blindly defending a dubious dogma. (It is still legitimate to soberly note that our Saviour and his Apostles and Prophets recognised that there are destructive, deceitful spiritual phenomena that do not come from a wholesome source, requiring discernment and in some cases direct challenge in the name of Jesus to exorcise them.)
  • This is why, we see in 1 Jn 4:1 - 6, again, a highly specific warning:

1 Jn 4: 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error. 

  • A word to the wise, is sufficient.
  • However, we must again point back to the first of this series, where we are warned of a current teaching in the UFO-Contact movement, that precisely fits the 1 Jn 4 warning:

[A] sitting congressman—reportedly Eric Berles of Missouri—participated via speakerphone and delivered a chilling warning. He told the assembled pastors to prepare their congregations because, according to inside sources, the government was on the verge of dropping a reality-shattering narrative: that humanity was created by interdimensional beings, not God, and that Jesus and the entire Biblical story were fabrications masterminded by these entities.

  • Thus, we are back to that biblical framing: we have excellent warrant for the reality of God and a prophecy-fulfillment-witness framework for the gospel; whatever seeks to undermine such or to marginalise and dismiss it fails the 1 Jn 4:1 - 4 test.  
  • (BTW, if we are dealing with self-confessed lying manipulators of millions for centuries, why should we give credence to anything they say now? [And, if some claim to be "whistleblowers," let us recall a certain sss-scaly "whistleblower" in Eden.] No, for cause, established gospel truth is our yardstick. This is not the first time that we have seen clever counter-narratives to the gospel.)
  • Recall, here, 2 Peter 1 on myths vs eyewitness history and on Messiah prophecies (such as Isa 53, c. 700 BC) fulfilled in front of those witnesses (c. 27 - 30 AD, cf. record 1 Cor 15:1 - 11, c 55 AD) and faithfully handed down to us at terrible cost in the face of "dungeon, fire and sword":  
2 Pet 1:16 For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty . . . . 19 And we have something more sure, the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
  • Thus, we can freely go back to moral government basics, that if a creature is free enough to reason, decide and act, it is free enough to be morally governed; where, the Ciceronian first duties undeniably apply to such entities.
  • Undeniably? Yes, as to try to deny or sideline them, one implicitly appeals to them, to duties to truth, right reason, warrant and wider prudence, neighbour, fairness and justice etc. Yes, these duties are preconditions for rational, responsible freedom that transcends blind chance and/or blind mechanical necessity. Yes, too, from love to neighbour, as Rom 13:8 - 10 etc outline, all the core duties hang.
  • So, we have duties of the rational, responsible soul here, not merely arbitrary rules set up and imposed by clever argument.
  • How would they apply to other creatures? If they are rational and responsible, they obviously directly apply. (In the case of God, they become a mirror, reflecting his "eternal power and godhead." God, being root of reality, creator, sustainer, first neighbour and host.)
  • When we turn to machines, including weapons, computers, AI's etc, these extensions are the responsibility of their creators; as, we already see in the first tort cases against creators of AI's.
  • Obviously, true angels will worship God and will call us to him; demons, instead, would try to subvert that. 
  • Other creatures may be innocent, or may be morally struggling as we are. The question then, is the Solzhenitsyn line- between- good- and- evil state of their hearts, just as it is so for us. For such, the gospel would be a message of hope.

And so, we are beginning to see a wider pattern, and to see how we can begin to exert discernment and provide prophetic intellectual and cultural leadership. 

UPDATE, a colleague provides an at last, Christian leader response, try:



Let us arise and build! END

Tuesday, June 09, 2026

The Empire Strikes Back, 3: This Friday, Spielberg's "Disclosure Day" movie will be released in the US, with

 . . . Mr Spielberg -- who is a believer in UFO's, ET's etc -- himself being on record that it challenges the views of the Christian Faith. As, Jubileecast reports:

The movie, which opens in theaters on June 12, examines how such a revelation could affect public trust in institutions, including government and religion.

Spielberg suggested that confirmation of intelligent life beyond Earth could force many people to reconsider long-held assumptions about faith.

"If this truth were just known overnight, if the government announced, 'Yes, we have been keeping this from you since 1947,' that would mess up a lot of people," Spielberg said during the interview. "And the movie also takes the position of the church. What does this do to the fundamental beliefs that many of us have? Is God our God only on this planet, or is God a God for every system where there's civilization, intelligent life, and even developing life?"

The article is less than straightforward (given, "church" above) as it discusses the controversy that has begun to brew:

The comments quickly generated discussion online, with some social media users accusing the director of attempting to undermine Christianity. However, Spielberg did not specifically reference Christianity during the interview. Instead, he raised broader theological questions about how faith traditions might respond if intelligent extraterrestrial life were discovered.

Further, as we may see from a trailer, the movie portrays what would be recognised as possession states -- altered voices, changed eyes etc -- and so this underscores that we must address the link to the UFO Contact Movement as has come up in our previous posts 1, 2:


So, we are about to see the ongoing US Government disclosures amplified by a potential blockbuster by a leading movie producer, who in a CBS interview went on record:

"Based on the circumstantial evidence of everything that I've gathered throughout my whole life, everybody I've listened to and every documentary I've ever watched and all the testimonies in Congress that I've heard, I absolutely think that they have been here, and they are here," Spielberg said. "And who knows, maybe they've always been here."

This puts the known teachings of many in the UFO Contact movement on the table. As we noted in an update to the first post in this emerging series:

[A] sitting congressman—reportedly Eric Berles of Missouri—participated via speakerphone and delivered a chilling warning. He told the assembled pastors to prepare their congregations because, according to inside sources, the government was on the verge of dropping a reality-shattering narrative: that humanity was created by interdimensional beings, not God, and that Jesus and the entire Biblical story were fabrications masterminded by these entities.

Thus, it is fair for us to point out the apologetics responsibilities of the church and its leaders, as on observation, too often we are disinclined to take them seriously. Let us start, with the underlying warrant-base for the gospel, which is shown to be a yardstick for truth:


With that base in mind, we again draw attention to 1 Jn 4:1 - 4:

1 Jn 4: 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

So, already, we know that some of what we are dealing with is of questionable spiritual value and truthfulness. As we noted in that same first post:

This framework is of course rooted in the good, structural reasons we have to believe in and know the reality of the good, loving God, and to receive the gospel of his crucified, risen Christ. Obviously, any intelligent being that rejects – as opposed to is ignorant of -- God and Christ, then, we have reason to see as in grave error, including the possibility of being an agent of a false, counterfeit spiritual message, the spirit of antichrist. 

Let us assume, our putative extraterrestrials exhibit moral struggle, much as we do. In that case, the gospel is for them, too! (Perhaps, as with the Narnians in Lewis’ Chronicles, in another form, as with Aslan.) 

If they are open to God and the gospel, fundamentally, all is well; but, we must be aware of the dangers of first contact, and must manage the process prudently.  

If they do not have or are not open to the good news of the Kingdom of God, then, we are in a different situation. 

One, where, we would have to take some readings of the early chapters of Genesis and related passages in the Revelation, etc., far more literally and seriously than we may be wont to. Which, would also be a strong sign of how late it is on the Biblical prophetic clock.

That remains the position. END

PS: Update Fri Jun 12, I clip food for thought from Mike McDaniel at AT:

Spielberg has had quite a box office drought, but he scored with E.T and Close Encounters, and he’s doing appearances in which he says he now believes there is intelligent life out there in the universe. He’s in the movie, money-making, business, so is he suggesting his movie will have us questioning our faith typical Hollywood marketing hype, or is he on to something more profound?

There is, so far as I can tell, nothing in the Bible that precludes alien life, or that enthrones man as God’s exclusive, superior creation achievement. There are suggestive passages, such as John 14:2: 

“In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.” 

“Father’s house:” the universe? “Many mansions:” different planets/species/intelligences? Common speculation, but our science suggests sapient life is possible elsewhere. Does that mean confirmation it exists and may be considerably more technologically advanced than us invalidates faith in God?

Why should it?

It has been often observed that to define God is to limit Him, limit him to what we, His creation, can imagine and understand. Why should we imagine that an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God is limited to creating sapient life on a single planet in an infinite universe? And are we to think confirming he did create life elsewhere must somehow invalidate our faith in His power and majesty? Or is it more likely that’s the insecurity of those who resist reliance on God and think accepting Him on faith, which is what He leaves to us to choose, somehow diminishes them?

The confirmation of extraterrestrial or extradimensional life will certainly change the way we think about much, and may introduce technological transformations, but human nature doesn’t change, nor does the nature of God.

As the aphorism goes: “Man plans; God laughs.” Steve Spielberg is but a man, like the rest of us.


Sunday, May 24, 2026

The Empire strikes back, 2: A second trove of UFO/UAP Files has been released, including key footage of sudden acceleration from Syria

 

A Reaper in flight, note "chin" sensor turret & underwing missiles
After two weeks, a second set of files has been released by the US Government, including the video clip as captioned. 

That clip, as released, has blacked out text on circumstances of the video; which was taken by a Reaper drone orbiting over Jordan and monitoring part of south-western Syria. However, such text is commonly available and is of little consequence. Further, this clip confirms the more complete version discussed in the video following, which dates it to 2021 and sets it alongside an article with details from the operator dating to 2022. So, in key part, this release validates the evidential credibility of those earlier reports. 

The key discussion begins, first at 17:32 where context is set, and then more directly from 24:33, and with the full clip from 29:52 on:


The key issue is, " 'instantaneous' acceleration," when the object suddenly zips to the right [East], having already broken targeting lock. This reflects several of the UAP characteristics:

  • sudden and instantaneous acceleration [violates Newton's laws of motion]
  • positive lift without visible means of propulsion [and no obvious lift devices like wings etc], 
  • hypersonic velocity without signatures [esp. no sonic booms] 
  • trans-medium travel (moving between air and water), and 
  • low observability ["cloaking"]

This object shows the first two, and the "zip" may be at least supersonic. Let's put up a sequence of annotated screen-shots -- though, of course, we should watch the video, and the US Government release has slowed versions that help:



Where, the anomaly also seems to be able to detect that the Reaper Drone's observation turret is locked to it from some number of miles away. It breaks lock then zips away. Contrast the background features, this is not simply an over-rapid pan and zoom.

A report on the observer at 28:05 in the video

While, some will fuss that only sensors controlled by duly accredited Scientists count as giving valid observations or demand to inspect machines, parts and bodies rumoured to be in possession of the US Government, it is clear that such an objection would be little more than the "gold standard evidence" dismissive fallacy. The video released by the US Government clearly confirms the validity of the earlier unredacted release, we have statements by the operator, the material is -- in Simon Greenleaf's terms in his treatise on Evidence -- is fair on the face and now clearly comes from a responsible source and repository. (Thus, it meets the Ancient Documents Rule standard, and it now is those who object to credibility who face the burden to show otherwise.)

This case, then, is decisive. 

Repeat, DECISIVE.

U/D, May 28, let's add 2+ hrs of footage (mostly of "orbs" but with oddly humanoid figures size ~ 2 m) with locations in the description below at YouTube:

Coming from the UFO/Contact "community," here is a supposed photo in low light of an extraterrestrial being "levitating" at 44:19 here, similar to a "Grey":

This levitating "ET" image, if trustworthy, from the "contact" community, has strong parallels to medium/spiritualist phenomena, and opens up the issue of Gnostic-like teachings of claimed ET's, as came up in the initial KF post, here. Clipping, "[A Us Congressman] told the assembled pastors to prepare their congregations because, according to inside sources, the government was on the verge of dropping a reality-shattering narrative: that humanity was created by interdimensional beings, not God, and that Jesus and the entire Biblical story were fabrications masterminded by these entities . . . " Thus again, 1 Jn 4:1 - 4 is our "test the spirits" watch-word, given that we have good warrant for the overall creation > history & prophecy > Christ, cross & resurrection > Church & mission > culmination biblical framework and especially the gospel as we may see by comparing the c 700 BC Isa 53 with AD 55 1 Cor 15:1 - 11 and AD 50 Acts 17:22 - 31.

So, yes, while much has been dubious or questionable for decades, there are phenomena on fair record, with reasonable supportive testimony, that establish observations of the five UAP phenomena. These are beyond our global technology base, and in some cases -- sudden/instant acceleration (change in speed and/or direction) suggest something beyond our current knowledge of Physics. It also corroborates that previously released or leaked documents, video files etc were sound, increasing credibility of a core of earlier reported observations. Obviously, that does not warrant all claims, reports, documents, video etc, or speculations as to causes (or on the nature of extra-terrestrials, if there are any), but it does shift credibility and therefore burden of proof.

Evidence of higher propulsion and flight technology is already impressive, especially as we are not seeing signs of heat engines using visible propellers or jets (which would not work underwater). Likewise, we are not seeing wings, whether fixed or rotary (yes, the whirling blades of helicopters are actually rotating wings). 

But it is the onward question of sudden/instant acceleration that is transformational. The questions of momentum do not allow such sudden velocity shifts. That implies something is happening that gets around components of Newton's Second Law, force is the rate of change of momentum, 

F = dP/dt = d/dt[(m*v)] = m*a, where m is constant.

. . . where m is mass and velocity, v, is the rate of change of displacement, x. (And yes, the effects we see are well within the range where newtonian dynamics are relevant, v under ~ c/10, and notice, relativistic effects speak to influences of velocity-tied mass shift, and/or to the analytical equivalence of acceleration and gravity.)

So, we are potentially looking at alterations of mass and/or space, raising issues of manipulation of gravity or space or both. 

That points to what science fiction terms "gravitics," and/or to "interdimensional"/ spacetime warp effects. Given, that there are significant UFO reports going back 80 or so years, that may be why modern Sci Fi uses such ideas. 

As a crude illustration, suppose there is a higher order dimension, so that -- and this is a classical Sci Fi story (c 1884!) -- a sphere passing through the plane of two-dimensional, XY-plane Flatland starts as a point, becomes a growing then shrinking circle and disappears. 

To the flatlanders that would look like a violation of the scientific law of matter conservation, sudden appearance, inexplicable growth and shrinkage, then sudden disappearance. Skeptical Flatlanders, doubtless, would deride and dismiss reports from "dubious" sources, and officials would be tempted to suppress and debunk such claims. Where, obviously, the revelation of a higher dimension, z (not just x,y) "up/down" would be a worldviews challenge that could easily be utterly disruptive. Save, perhaps to imaginative mathematicians who could construct a space, with z algebraically, and assess the logic of its properties and of objects in that higher space, e.g. a sphere. 

Thus, we see the domain we need to open up to as analytical tool, Mathematics, the disciplined study of the logic of structure and quantity; with its ability to identify (with associated Ontology -- study of being) possible worlds and construct what we could call abstract, logic-model worlds, with key "necessary" entities, properties and principles that are trans-world. No wonder we are seeing discussions of "transdimensional" entities. 

The Flatland toy model for interdimensionality

Let's play with Flatland a bit; identify a sloped line that is in W' = (x, y, z) that is moving along the z-axis, which would then look like a point moving in the W = (x, y) plane. If the line is curved or moves in a way reflecting a shallow angle in Z relative to XY, then we could see an apparent very high speed, and/or acceleration without "visible means of support." Especially, if the line L in Z is curved we could see fairly sudden shifts in v, from low to high, and if kinked somehow, apparently instant. Where, a small delta-z change, with a sufficiently shallow slope, would give a large delta-W, i.e. small changes in z give surprisingly large changes in (xy) -- indeed, with a pair of scissors, the speed of motion of the point of intersection of the blades can greatly exceed that of the blades themselves.

That is a special case of the line moving through Flatland, but one we could more readily visualise and perhaps experiment with (taking due safety measures for sharp, pointy objects!):



Similarly, if the object pops up to the Z then comes back down to XY, it will seem to vanish and reappear -- without, visible means of support. (And, rapid popping up then returning would create an illusion of moving in XY when all the actual motion is away from the plane. That's how moving pictures work, by showing us successive stills at closely spaced times, leading us to perceive motion.)

Then, shift to two time axes and higher order space, as time is a key variable here. suppose an object actually moving in t2 is moving slowly in that higher time, but with a shallow slope, would appear to be moving rapidly in our timeline, t1. Again, without visible means of support. 

So, it makes sense to think onward in terms of inter- or trans- dimensional behaviour, opening up to a wider reality. 

Of course, this does not prove interdimensionality, it just helps us open up our thinking by providing ideas-space to move beyond our common experience. And yes, that ability to think more broadly, is valuable. Just in case, let me prompt, on . . . 


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Further, we are not here addressing moral reality or the roots of reality, that will await the point where "teachings" come up more explicitly. We already have pointed to new age, neo pagan claims in the prior post, and to how we should respond to "First Contact." END